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David "PiperFan" JohnsonPerson was signed in when posted
11-27-2016
04:56 UT
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Tim Tow wrote:

> Where is the reference in Piper where he says that every type of
> government had existed at one time in the Italian City states
> around the Renaissance time period?

I think Jon has that one right with Harkaman's comment from ~Space Viking~.

Piper likens an unemployed mercenary (acting as a secret agent for a Hos-Harphax prince) to "the bravos of Renaissance Italy" in ~Lord Kalvan~ and notes in "The Mercenaries" that some Free Scientist leaders "acquired power greater than that of any _condottiere_ captain of Renaissance Italy" but I've not been able to locate a reference to Renaissance Italy in a Terro-human Future History work.

Oath to Galzar!

David
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"Ravick had been in power too long, and he was drunker on it than Bish Ware ever got on Baldur honey-rum. As an intoxicant, rum is practically a soft drink beside power." - Walt Boyd (H. Beam Piper), ~Four-Day Planet~
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Mike RobertsonPerson was signed in when posted
11-26-2016
17:47 UT
Jon Crocker asked if anyone has read Down Styphon.

Yes I have and its a very good read. I recommend it to everyone.

Mike Robertson
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Jon CrockerPerson was signed in when posted
11-23-2016
00:49 UT
I couldn't find that quote, but in Space Viking in the opening party, Harkamann says "You know, it's odd; practically everything that's happened on any of the inhabited planets has happened on Terra before the first spaceship."

Seperate question - has anyone read the new "Down Styphon" book, by John Carr? How is it?
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Tim TowPerson was signed in when posted
11-21-2016
18:50 UT
Interesting to see a minor Piper revival albeit unofficial apparently.

I had a question. Where is the reference in Piper where he says that every type of government had existed at one time in the Italian City states around the Renaissance time period?
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David "PiperFan" JohnsonPerson was signed in when posted
11-15-2016
00:45 UT
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Dietmar Wehr's System States War?

Anyone read any of these books?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BOWHN7A

From the descriptions, Wehr, co-author of ~The Merlin Gambit~, seems to have made enough changes to keep him clear of any copyright laywers but with even "sophisticated planning computers" fighting the war it sure sounds familiar to me.

Looks like the final novel in the trilogy--after the Federation defeats the System States--goes in a decidely different direction.

Remember Ashmodai! Remember Belphegor!

David
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"Ideas for science fiction stories like ideas for anything else, are where you find them, usually in the most unlikely places. The only reliable source is a mind which asks itself a question like, 'What would happen if--?' or, 'Now what would this develop into, in a few centuries?' Or, 'How would so-and-so happen?' Anything at all, can trigger such a question, in your field if not in mine." - H. Beam Piper, "Double: Bill Symposium" interview
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David "PiperFan" JohnsonPerson was signed in when posted
11-13-2016
15:56 UT
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James "jimmyjoejangles" Romanski wrote:

> thanks for the heads up! how much expansion are we talking?
> I'm excited to read some new Piper(to me(possibly))!

The ~Sci-Fi Sherlock Holmes~ edition adds about a thousand words to the 11,000 words of "The Return" originally published in ~Astounding~. So, we're not talking here about something like the expansion of "Graveyard of Dreams" into ~Junkyard Planet~.

This book is rare, and valuable, not so much for the Piper/McGuire yarn but because of its (two) limited run(s) and special interest to Sherlock Holmes fans. But it does nevertheless include the first publication of some original Piper/McGuire material.

Good luck,

David
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"Do you know which books to study, and which ones not to bother with? Or which ones to read first, so that what you read in the others will be comprehensible to you? That's what they'll give you [at university]. The tools, which you don't have now, for educating yourself." - Bish Ware (H. Beam Piper), ~Four-Day Planet~
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jimmyjoejanglesPerson was signed in when posted
11-13-2016
12:50 UT
thanks for the heads up! how much expansion are we talking? I'm excited to read some new Piper(to me(possibly))!
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David "PiperFan" JohnsonPerson was signed in when posted
11-13-2016
04:15 UT
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Expanded version of "The Return" at eBay

There is a very reasonably priced edition of ~The Science-Fictional Sherlock Holmes~ available on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/302135867906

This anthology includes the expanded version of Piper's "The Return." This item is pretty rare and would be a great bargain if you can get it near the starting bid price. (This is an auction, of course, so it's possible it ends up selling for a lot more.)

Good luck,

David (not the seller)
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"Do you know which books to study, and which ones not to bother with? Or which ones to read first, so that what you read in the others will be comprehensible to you? That's what they'll give you [at university]. The tools, which you don't have now, for educating yourself." - Bish Ware (H. Beam Piper), ~Four-Day Planet~
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David "PiperFan" JohnsonPerson was signed in when posted
11-06-2016
01:32 UT
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Jon Crocker wrote:

> the first day he saw her, she had jerkin, under-tunic,
> boots and hose, which seems better suited for riding in
> Pennsylvania in the fall. The second day was "a red and
> grey knit frock that could have gone into Bergdorf-
> Goodman's window with a $200 price tag any day..."

I think Schoenherr and Freas captured it pretty well in their respective illustrations for the original "Gunpowder God" and "Down Styphon!" You can see them at the bottom of the Paratime Gallery page at Zarthani.net:

http://www.zarthani.net/paratime_gallery.htm

But sooner or later I'll add those Japanese "Carter of Mars-esque" illustrations too. ;)

Down Styphon!

David
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"A lot of technicians are girls, and when work gets slack, they're always the first ones to get shoved out of jobs." - Sylvie Jacquemont (H. Beam Piper), ~Junkyard Planet~
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Jon CrockerPerson was signed in when posted
11-06-2016
00:10 UT
I looked up the reference from Lord Kalvan of what she was wearing - the first day he saw her, she had jerkin, under-tunic, boots and hose, which seems better suited for riding in Pennsylvania in the fall. The second day was "a red and grey knit frock that could have gone into Bergdorf-Goodman's window with a $200 price tag any day..."

From the Dollar Times inflation calculator, that's about $1500 in today's dollars. Bergdorf Goodman has a website, and that seems to be about right.

I have no doubt that someone, had they been so inclined, could have bought that outfit from the illustration in New York at the time, but I don't think it would have been in Bergdorf Goodman's window. But I wasn't there at the time, so you never know.
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David "PiperFan" JohnsonPerson was signed in when posted
11-04-2016
04:01 UT
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Jon Crocker wrote:

> She looks like she fell out of Burrows' John Carter of Mars.

This page shows the frontispiece of that same edition of Lord Kalvan:

http://dejahthoris.la.coocan.jp/gr_haxx3.htm

That's apparently Calvin Morrison leaping into the fray. The page is pointing out the similarity of this illustration and Frazetta's Swords of Mars cover (at the top).

"Rylla-dad-Doorsha" it is!

Down Styphon!

David
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"Oh, my people had many gods. There was Conformity, and Authority, and Expense Account, and Opinion. And there was Status, whose symbols were many, and who rode in the great chariot Cadillac, which was almost a god itself. And there was Atom-bomb, the dread destroyer, who would some day come to end the world. None were very good gods, and I worshiped none of them. - Calvin Morrison (H. Beam Piper), ~Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen~
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David "PiperFan" JohnsonPerson was signed in when posted
11-04-2016
02:29 UT


Martians crash-land on Terra (illustration by Yorimitsu Takashi for Japanese translation of "Genesis")

From online auction here: http://www.uneedbid.com.hk/yahoobid.php?id=h189423286&cid=190603)
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Jon CrockerPerson was signed in when posted
11-02-2016
01:53 UT
I dunno, that looks a bit cool for a Tarr-Hostigos fall time... She looks like she fell out of Burrows' John Carter of Mars.
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jimmyjoejanglesPerson was signed in when posted
11-01-2016
20:29 UT
That's exactly as I always pictured her!
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David "PiperFan" JohnsonPerson was signed in when posted
11-01-2016
14:28 UT


Princess Rylla as you've never seen her before

(from a Japanese edition of Lord Kalvan: https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E7%95%B0%E4%B8%9...3%BC/dp/4150103445/)
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